Curse

Mr Pink57 · Jan 28, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

If I was to take a OoV it would be a N/Rt with weapon spells/spirits vs a para with OoV. And then all paras would take Swift Javelin

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MercenaryKnight · Jan 28, 2008, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Yeah but it would ruin the point of an all paragon trip if you brought an n/rt. But yeah that'd be better if you didn't want all paragons.

Akolo · Jan 28, 2008, 06:02 AM // 06:02

its used time to time for adrenaline, ofc i know they dont stack. and OoV sped up as you mostly just attack..

MercenaryKnight · Jan 29, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koning

The build on PvX wiki is (very) bad. Also, 2.5 hours is bad for clearing

Don't know if that's because of the build, or because of the players.

Anyway, here's what we ran when we cleared the Fissure of Woe (1.5 hours back than):

3x SoR motivation para's:

Song of restoration
Finale of restoration
Chorus of restoration
Agressive refrain
Spear of Lightning
Merciless spear
Signet of Return
Optional (In this slot we need either Ballad of restoration/Signet of synergy/Mending refrain. We need all 3, the para's need to decide themselves which one each will bring)

11+1 Leadership
11+1 Motivation
8+1+1 Spear mastery (attributes might be optimized by spapping headpieces, however I've ran these builds on heroes so I couldn't do that).

1x SY! Para

Save Yourselves! (at least 4 secs, otherwise you can't maintain it forever)
Agressive refrain
Focussed Anger
Signet of return (if we dont bring essence, use FGJ)
Ebon battle standard of honor
Great dwarf weapon/Iam the strongest (depending on title
Spear of lightning
Vicious attack (or wild throw if you brought great dwarf weapon)

12+1+1 Spear mastery
11+1 Leadership

1x Anthem of Fury Para:

Anthem of Fury
Go for the Eyes!
Anthem of flame
They're on fire or something other usefull
Agressive Refrain
Anthem of Envy
Spear of Lightning/Vicious attack
Wild trow/Disrupting trow

12+1 Leadership (for a 4 adreanaline AoF)
8+1 Command
10+1+1 Spear mastery

1X damager

Cruel Spear
Spear of Lightning
Swift javelin (if with order, otherwise use vicious)
FGJ
Agressive refrain
There's nothing to fear (if lvl 8 SS or higher)
I am the strongest
Go For the Eyes!

12+1+1 Spear mastery
11+1 Leadership
rest in command

Expel Hexes Dude

Expel hexes
Inspired hex
Anthem of envy
Go For The Eyes!
Spear of lightning
Agressive refrain
Wild Throw/Merciless spear
signet of return

11+1+1 spear mastery
11+1 leadership
rest +1 in command

Than we're 7/8. For the last slot either another damager, or even an order. Make sure you either give that guy a TNTF (since only the cruel spear has TNTF in this set up), otherwise some other para from the above builds takes it (pref the anthem of fury one). No need for SoP in FoW, and maybe we can drop a few sigs of return for attack skills. I would suggest using this rather than what's on PvX, and maybe others might have tips to improve this even more?

Only thing is, it seems like the 3 song of restorations is a bit too much healing? When I went with a group that basically only had an echo signet of synergy healer that we were fine. So maybe take away 1 song of restoration healer and add in some more damage.

We also didn't use aggressive refrain so I don't know if that adds considerable more damage. But instead if players have it and a pve slot open they could use drunken master for an increased attack speed with no drawbacks. Or add a few more greater dwarf weapons to permanently keep duo monk shadow army mobs and what not down on the ground.

Koning · Jan 29, 2008, 11:19 AM // 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

Or add a few more greater dwarf weapons to permanently keep duo monk shadow army mobs and what not down on the ground.

We don't need to keep them on the ground, since they fall way too quick

Also, yes 3x SoR might look alot, but the nice thing about this is that you can cast it, and completely forget about healing. So you can immediatly start attacking again thus doing more damage. If you echo signet of synergy you are more or less dedicating 1 person to healing, making sure that person does considerable less damage.

MercenaryKnight · Jan 29, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Yeah, I didn't say us copying wiki was any good. But it just seemed like if you took out 1 or even 2 of the sor's, that you could add 2 more damaging paragons and still be healed enough not to have to worry.

But either way it is a nice team set up non the less. Better then when I ran those horrible wiki variants.

I will probably try to get an all paragon group going this saturday so I can complete fow for the monument. Most likely edit a few skills in your build and try to get the rest of them to run it heh.

fishy go moo · Jan 30, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

i will happily join you guys

except you would have to meet in chantry of secrets cuz i dont have anywhere else but pm my paragon sometime his ign is omglololwut no wai (i think i forget spacing so just try different varients)

Abedeus · Jan 31, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

I would like to join ya too. I tried to make a team in my guild, but only 3-4 people said they have a paragon. Too bad so little people understand how imba and uber profession it is. IGN is on my left.

Do paragons meet in Chantry of Secrets? It's kinda far for me, as I have already finished campaign with 3 characters and I got to CoS on more, that I deleted already. Can you also start in ToA?

fishy go moo · Feb 02, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

permission to use named granted

just came back fricking 3 hours but this guy had to take a 30 min break and go do something so yesh

http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw253vn7.jpg

weeeeeeeeee

distilledwill · Feb 03, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Id love to join once I get Leg Survivor on my para.

Good job.

odly · Feb 04, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

I did a full run of FoW with my paragon in 1h45 yesterday.

We had a normal balanced group of friends where everyone plays whatever profession and build he wants...

Redvex · Feb 04, 2008, 12:31 PM // 12:31

I'm rank 3 on alliance title so it's good for running sy?

Miss Harblz · Feb 04, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Hey,

I would love to go for a Para Fow run =)

Ign is Mistress yakslapper

If I can come please post which build I should use in a advance so I can practice/find the skills if I don't have them all =

Thanks allot

The yak

Sha Noran · Feb 04, 2008, 11:05 PM // 23:05

ROFL 2.5 hours to clear Normal Mode FoW with EIGHT Paragons? My God, what are you doing wrong?

I'm not even trying to be mean, I wish there was something I could do to help you get done faster.

Edit: Actually, I know why it takes you so long... you have WAY more healing than you need when you're only doing normal mode and you eight players in perma-god-mode. Drop a Song Resto dude for another damage dealer, toss in a pair of "Shields Up!", have your SY guy bring "Charge!" as his elite, and never stop agroing.